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Comment by ckt4

Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:32:52 PST

I, for one, can say that "Rent or buy what you can afford...PLAN your life better...stop with tatoos,..." is crap. I have seen my parents, grandparents, etc. break their backs their entire lives and scrimp and save, with no extras, frills or wants, only to find in their golden years that with the changing of the times, (which looking back 20-30 yrs NO ONE could have seen where we are today)they are forced to give up all that they have worked so hard for and still have a hard time paying for day to day necessities. I can only say that maybe you need to be able to see beyond yourself and notice that "Hard work" does not equal prosperity and freedom from financial issues.

Comment by catque61

Fri, 23 Oct 2009 11:28:29 PDT

Perhaps more communistic views might help this country. Capitalism certainly seems to be taking it's toll!

Comment by sabresfan

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:33:47 PDT

State employee pensions and benefits are at least 10% better than private sector, so cut their lucrative benefits.

Comment by sabresfan

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:31:13 PDT

The teachers near our home do very well. Plus, teachers don't work a full year and get PENSIONS. Aren't teacher pensions exempt from state income tax? WTF!

Comment by sabresfan

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:24:37 PDT

Unbelievable!! They can charge $100+ for tickets, pay players 8 figure salaries, but not pay property taxes?????

Comment by sabresfan

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:22:05 PDT

After operating expenses - salaries, bonuses, benefits, pensions, cars, cell phones, computers, etc. I'm sure they give what's left to schools.

Comment by sabresfan

Mon, 21 Sep 2009 16:16:10 PDT

Eliminate state, local and "authority" pensions all together. The majority of private companies either don't offer, or have reduced or eliminated pensions. Why should the taxpayer finance these pensions, while they are struggling to fund their own.

Comment by kmkoblensky

Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:16:56 PDT

You have it right!!!If only they would listen!

Comment by kmkoblensky

Fri, 21 Aug 2009 09:14:16 PDT

oh, unfunded mandates..the term that the Cohoes City mayor loves to through around..a rule that gets no money to inforce..do you get money from the government for abiding by the rules? No..schools run on the use it or loss it theory..if they do not use what the state hands them the following year they will not recieve that amount..so the waste, waste, waste..as in Cohoes..some friend of a friend gets the poison waste food the feed the children..no oversite by the people..very little involvement..you have it 3 out of the 4 right on the head!

Comment by kmkoblensky

Fri, 21 Aug 2009 08:59:10 PDT

capitalism is high taxation..this is a capitalistic society..one greedy human is more important than the next..those who make the most, get all of the advantages..the corporations, and the politicans in their pockets take and take and take..then the tire of paying a fare wage and the work leaves..walmart's is some good job..try to survive on it! the poor of ny want to work and do! Show me cheap apartments..show me the education for the common children..they are discarded..no more free hand out for the rich!!!

Comment by kristen.holmes

Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:05:31 PDT

I agree

Comment by annamaria115

Thu, 16 Jul 2009 08:14:25 PDT

You sound like someone whose parents raised you properly, you were probably an eagle scout, and a member of the honor society. Further, you probably worked three jobs to get thru college, and you probably have gotten out of bed and headed into work most all of your adult life. In addition you probably always filed and paid your taxes timely. In fact nearly 50% of your income has paid to governments at every level. SO WHY DO YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT GIVING MORE TO THOSE WHO RIDE THE WELFARE_PLEASE PAY FOR ME GRAVY TRAIN. THOSE WITHOUT "DESERVE" ALL YOU HAVE LEFT. RIGHT?? If not move away and leave the dregs to fend for themselves.{remember escape from new york}

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Comment by Mark West

Sun, 17 May 2009 15:04:59 PDT

I am happy to hear that a court order is in effect but it just goes to show how an order has no teeth if the state can just delay it. This legislation will end the delay and thanks to the existing court ruling it will not be judicially overturned as unconstitutional!

Comment by pnm3

Fri, 15 May 2009 21:00:22 PDT

And the cap should apply to ALL taxing jurisdictions, not just the schools. A cap isn't a cut, but a limit on annual upward expansion that will force each of the 4200 autonomous taxing jurisdictions to find efficiencies. This reform is the very least that State Legislators can do to address the RPT crisis in NYS.

Comment by pnm3

Fri, 15 May 2009 20:20:40 PDT

This is incredibly important and you have stated the problem very well. The Ag. Assessment program (see Secs. 305 & 306 of the Ag. & Mkts. Law) is being abused by very many very wealthy people, and the allowance of rental arrangements probably results in some of the most egregious abuse. However, also note that $10K gross sales requirement for "farmers" qualifying in their own right was set when the Ag. Districts Law was enacted back in 1971. To have the same meaning that the program founders intended back, that $10K should probably be something like $40K today. Folks would be shocked to see some of the properties currently having the land component taxed at such miniscule levels under this program, especially the palatial private residential retreats with ample acreage in very pricey areas of this state.

Comment by elfstone

Fri, 15 May 2009 10:40:40 PDT

Want to cut spending? Pass Kevin Cahill's Equity in Education Act that ends residential property taxes entirely and turns to income to fund education thruought NYS. It also calls for a return to true progressive income tax brackets, such as were in effct prior to 1972. When the most affluent among us finally have to pay their fair share again, they will implement spending cuts so fast our heads would swim. When those of modest means are paying most of the freight there is no incentive for the rich and powerful to change anything, or even give a damn, as we have seen for years.

The Krueger bill S4239, should be supported now as a first step to the real comprehensive reform offered by Cahill AO6009. Those least able to pay need relief now and the Omnibus bill and Krueger aim to do just that. Lets not stop there, we need to demand further reforms and not stop at only much needed relief. The people cannot wait another year!

Comment by tooteach99

Thu, 14 May 2009 14:38:59 PDT

Even on Long Island, teacher salaries fluctate greatly from district to district. If you think teachers are paid so well, why don't you give it a try?

Comment by krys.cail

Thu, 14 May 2009 14:03:09 PDT

They don't work.... AND they have a tendency to foster local fraud, corruption and favoring of one business over another (unlevel playing field).

Comment by krys.cail

Thu, 14 May 2009 13:57:46 PDT

I think that this is from one of my children's teachers. She is so right. She is worth her weight in gold... but, where is the gold going? We should be using income tax for education, not pitting people against our schools like this, through regressive taxation.

Comment by jeffrey

Thu, 14 May 2009 09:02:11 PDT

The Attorney General is to be applauded for his efforts on Special Taxing District Reform, as are many of the other statewide leaders who have voiced support for his efforts.

Special district reform efforts
As seen in Newsday, 5/11/08

Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver is to be commended for taking a bold position on special taxing district reform . He joins a growing list of legislators and good government groups that have vocally supported Attorney General Andrew Cuomo's efforts to introduce legislation that will streamline the process of consolidating wasteful special taxing districts statewide.

This landmark legislation would allow for a simplified process by which citizens can petition to place a referendum for the consolidation of a specific district on the ballot. In Nassau County, the proliferation of these dysfunctional districts has reached pandemic proportions, and the attorney general is trying to give us a way to stop the bleeding for Nassau taxpayers.

Jeff Guillot
Project Coordinator
The Nassau County Government Efficiency Project

Comment by mpant67543

Wed, 13 May 2009 17:28:50 PDT

Teachers pay taxes too.
Teachers deserve to be paid much more then we as a society seem to be able to give. Education is THE most important factor in a successful society. How can we condone the outrageous salaries of the CEO's and complain about teacher salaries. Shameful!

Comment by wgposwego

Wed, 13 May 2009 16:21:17 PDT

n addition to lowering property taxes for those least able to pay we must have a way to get school costs under control. The current system is badly, badly broken.

Local control of schools, the way it is done now, simply does not work. The ordinary voter does not bother to vote because re-vote / contingency budget nonsense will always raise taxes anyway. Most people who do vote have more to gain than to lose. (Wouldn't we all like to pay a few hundred more in taxes to get a salary increase of thousands?)

The teacher unions are in favor of the circuit breaker. But I do not think they really care that much about whether or not anyone is taxed out of their homes. They are in favor of it because they see it as the only proposal that allows the cycle of increasing school budgets to continue. The cycle will continue because the schools will still be funded by the property tax. The only difference will be that the state will kick in money for those who can't afford to pay it all themselves.

It's just STAR version 3, with no curbs on spending. We need the circuit breaker, just out of decency to people who will be taxed out of their homes. But, even more, we need serious spending CUTS. Not just a slow down in increases as the caps will provide but real CUTS.

I think a requirement that a school district spend no more PER STUDENT each year than they did the year before might be a good start.

Comment by wgposwego

Wed, 13 May 2009 15:53:08 PDT

In addition to lowering property taxes for those least able to pay we must have a way to get school costs under control. The current system is badly, badly broken.

Local control of schools, the way it is done now, simply does not work. The ordinary voter does not bother to vote because re-vote / contingency budget nonsense will always raise taxes anyway. Most people who do vote have more to gain than to lose. (Wouldn't we all like to pay a few hundred more in taxes to get a salary increase of thousands?)

The teacher unions are in favor of the circuit breaker. But I do not think they really care that much about whether or not anyone is taxed out of their homes. They are in favor of it because they see it as the only proposal that allows the cycle of increasing school budgets to continue. The cycle will continue because the schools will still be funded by the property tax. The only difference will be that the state will kick in money for those who can't afford to pay it all themselves.

It's just STAR version 3, with no curbs on spending. We need the circuit breaker, just out of decency to people who will be taxed out of their homes. But, even more, we need serious spending CUTS. Not just a slow down in increases as the caps will provide but real CUTS.

I think a requirement that a school district spend no more PER STUDENT each year than they did the year before might be a good start.

Comment by iweiss

Wed, 13 May 2009 15:24:20 PDT

Teaching, even on Long Island, is still one of the lowest paid professions requiring a masters degree!

Comment by y

Tue, 12 May 2009 19:39:29 PDT

The Omnibus bill is just a way for taxes to be increased on the middle class to support teacher salary hikes. The "middle class" is any household making $50,000 a year or more. Do not be fooled by the propoganda around the bill, read it yourself.

The Omnibus bill would be fine if it came with a teacher salary freeze. Long Island teachers make more money than school teachers anywhere in the world.

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Comment by rsw57

Mon, 11 May 2009 09:35:12 PDT

I THINK ALL MIDDLE INCOME NEW YORK FAMILIES ARE ENTITLED TO TAX RELIEF, BUT THOSE WHO ARE PAYING THE HIGHEST PERCENTAGE OF THEIR INCOMES IN TAXES SHOULD NOT BEAR THE GREATEST BURDEN. UNDER THE KRUEGER CIRCUIT BREAKER BILL S 4239, PEOPLE WHO RENT WILL ALSO BE ELIGIBLE FOR A TAX CREDIT.
TO SEE HOW THIS WILL AFFECT YOU, GO TO: www.nyspropertytaxreform.org. THERE YOU WILL FIND A CALCULATOR. PUT IN YOUR STATISTICS, (NO NAME AND NO PERSONAL INFORMATION) AND YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE HOW THIS BILL WILL HELP YOU. IMPORTANT, BE SURE TO GO TO THE 4TH YEAR FINDINGS TO GET THE FINAL RESULT, AS THIS KRUEGER CIRCUIT BREAKER BILL GIVES IMMEDIATE RELIEF BUT IT WILL BE EVEN BETTER IN THE 2ND, 3D, AND 4TH YEAR AFTER IMPLEMENTATION.

Comment by shebar4

Mon, 11 May 2009 09:32:08 PDT

It's ABSOLUTELY TRUE that the state should fund the lion's share of education. In fact the state is under a court order to do so based on the CFE lawsuit. Albany keeps putting off compliance.
The Omnibus Solution upon which S4239-Sen. Liz Kreueger's bill is based has a reform component which would gradually introduce a state takeover of education and more of their share of medicaid..
S4239 is necessary because people need relief immediately which the circuit would bring right away...while the reform portion was being worked on.

Comment by rsw57

Mon, 11 May 2009 09:06:44 PDT

I FULLY AGREE WE NEED THE KIND OF FUNDAMENTAL FUNDING REFORM DESCRIBED, BUT THERE IS REALISTICALLY NO WAY THAT CAN HAPPEN IN THE FIVE WEEKS LEFT OF THE CURRENT SESSION. THE KRUEGER CIRCUIT BREAKER MUST BE PASSED THIS SESSION ! PEOPLE ON THE VERGE OF BEING FORCED FROM THEIR HOMES SIMPLY CAN'T WAIT ANOTHER YEAR.
THE OMNIBUS SOLUTION www.omnibustaxsolution.org WILL MOVE US ALL IN THE TAX REFORM DIRECTION THAT YOU DESCRIBED, BUT, MIRACLES DON'T HAPPEN ALL AT ONCE.

Comment by rsw57

Mon, 11 May 2009 08:15:00 PDT

I PERSONALLY KNOW OF FAMILIES WHO ARE PAYING '42%', '43%', AND '49%' OF THEIR HOUSEHOLD INCOME TO PAY THE PROPERTY TAX ON THEIR HOME IN NEW YORK STATE.
MY HEART GOES OUT TO THEM.
THE ONLY ANSWER IS:
PASS THE KRUEGER CIRCUIT BREAKER BILL S 4239
THIS SESSION !

Comment by rsw57

Mon, 11 May 2009 07:57:36 PDT

YES, IMMEDIATE RELIEF IS THE HOTTEST TOPIC AT PUBLIC GATHERINGS THAT I HAVE ATTENDED IN THE LAST YEAR. I HEAR SERIOUS, PERSONAL STATEMENTS LIKE; "MY WIFE AND I FIGURE WE CAN ONLY AFFORD TO STAY IN OUR HOME ANOTHER 2 YEARS, MAYBE 3, UNLESS SOME FORM OF TAX RELIEF IF COMING FAST".
SOME NATIVES NEW YORKERS HAVE ALREADY SEEN THE WRITING ON THE WALL, AND...
WE MISS THEM....

Comment by pcbrothe

Sun, 10 May 2009 18:11:42 PDT

I recently learned from a neighbor of mine whose primary residence is in another part of the state that he is disgusted with the STAR rebate being eliminated and he told me this represented $4,000 in his pocket. This individual makes over $500,000 per year. His primary residence is in a wealthier neighborhood in NYS than we are. I told him in our neighborhood we got a STAR rebate check for about $150 while we still pay over $10,000 on an annual basis in combined property taxes. Do any of you who are against the circuit breaker see the disparity??? There is a definate lack of fairness with regard to property taxes and the system has to change. Personally, I am very glad the STAR rebate has been eliminated because it will save the state a large sum of money. The Krueger bill (S4239) would help a lot of people in the middle and lower class. At the same time, the cost to the state with the elimination of STAR would be insignificant considering the size of current state budgets. If the state can afford to pay close to $1 billion to bring in a chip fab company via corporate welfare/NYS Empire Zone/NYS Empire State Economic Development Corporation, they certainly have the money to help honest, ethical, hard working, middle and lower class property owners. Of all the special interests that lobby government for favors, there is no group that is more neglected and abused than the residential property owner in their PRIMARY residence. For those who say the state doesn't have the money, I agree we are in a crisis. I have begged state elected leaders all over the state to cut spending and make the governments which impose unfunded mandates pay for those mandates such as No Child Left Behind and Medicaid. It hasn't worked!!! Give those who are paying a disproportionate share of their income toward taxes and we can use our resources to help implement a system which is more fair and equitable for all taxpayers. Cutting spending and eliminating unfunded mandates would be a significant part of the plan.

Comment by msheeley

Sat, 09 May 2009 04:51:17 PDT

We all tax about tax reform, but Susan and this group have taken the "talk" to a new level. I add my voice in support of their efforts.

Comment by keithbmcnab

Fri, 08 May 2009 06:51:41 PDT

How does the Senate plan on funding this initiative???????????

Comment by mlifgr

Thu, 07 May 2009 17:52:23 PDT

Consolidating government will, like the Arlington School District, become too big and too expensive

Comment by whiteley

Thu, 07 May 2009 14:29:00 PDT

A cap provides neither relief -- since it doesn't reduce anyone's taxes) nor reform (since it props up an outmoded funding system rather than developing a new, more equitable system of taxation). The only way to truly solve the school property tax problem long term is to gradually reduce the use of the antiquated property tax in favor of more broad-based state taxes more in keeping with people's ability to pay.

Comment by whiteley

Thu, 07 May 2009 14:22:14 PDT

I respectfully don't understand the previous comment. It is the use of market value as the basis of assessments that is driving up the taxes of long time residents and forcing them out of their homes. Basing valuations on acquisition value rather than current market value would solve that problem. Perhaps the comment means that the valuation on any given home should only change when the home is sold. That is what acquisition value does, and I would fully agree..

Comment by whiteley

Thu, 07 May 2009 14:16:49 PDT

The neat feature of the circuit breaker concept is that the eligibility for, and amount of, the tax credit depends on relationship between one's tax bill and the income available to pay the tax. That is the only fair measure of a property tax burden. For those who are paying above the given percentage amount already, it will provide an immediate reduction. For those who are not yet paying that level, it can kick in if either 1)property taxes rise significantly OR 2)income drops significantly (no longer uncommon) In this economy, if someone loses a job,for instance, he/she is far more likely to benefit significantly from the circuit breaker than from the rebate check.

Comment by whiteley

Thu, 07 May 2009 14:03:02 PDT

Only the circuit breaker will actually REDUCE anyone's taxes. The Krueger/Omnibus circuit breaker (S4239) is the only fiscally responsible option in the current fiscal climate because it phases in the cost over four years and is a "stand-alone" measure unencumbered by other provisions which would either add more cost or are too complex or controversial to gain passage anytime soon. Homeowners desperate for the relief this bill would provide should not be held hostage to an elusive consensus on such comprehensive solutions which end up, at best, as one house bills. Taxpayers have learned about such gimmicks and are sick and tired of them. THEY WANT REAL PROPERTY TAX RELIEF NOW -- and STAR rebate checks won't do it.

Comment by shebar4

Thu, 07 May 2009 11:16:25 PDT

This is the only one!! This is the real deal!!!

Comment by shebar4

Thu, 07 May 2009 11:14:32 PDT

This may or may not be feasible or desirable...a lot of people like the idea and it's worth discussing seriously BUT IT WON'T HELP IN THE SHORT TERM...
PEOPLE ARE IN DISTRESS RIGHT NOW DUE TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE CHAOTIC AND POSSIBLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL PROPERTY TAX...IT ISN'T BASED ON INCOME.....OUR LEGISLATORS KNOW---OR SHOULD KNOW--THIS SITUATION HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THIRTY YEARS.
WE NEED RELIEF FIRST AND THEN REFORM OF THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE OF HOW WE FUND SERVICES.

THERE IS A BILL IN THE SENATE-S4239 THAT WOULD PLACE A LIMIT OF HOW MUCH TOTAL PROPERTY TAX ANYONE WOULD PAY BASED ON INCOME....AND THAT INCOME IS PHASED IN SO IN THE LAST YEAR OF THE PHASE -IN PEOPLE MAKING UP TO 250,000 WOULD GET RELIEF.......AND NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF NEIGHBORS...THE STATE WOULD PICK UP THE SLACK....

THERE IS ALSO A REFORM COMPONENT..LOG ON TO HTTP://WWW.OMNIBUSTAXSOLUTION.ORG/ AND HTTP://WWW.TAXNIGHTMARE.ORG/ TO GET THE LATEST NEWS.....AND TO READ THE BILL....YOUR PARTICIPATION IS CRUCIAL.

Comment by shebar4

Thu, 07 May 2009 11:04:45 PDT

That may be a good idea but it won't help people who are in danger of losing their homes RIGHT NOW!!!

S4239 WILL DO THAT
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Consolidation shouldn't be palmed off as property tax relief...it may be good idea but it's a long process.....Albany needs to stop wasting time...

They know what to do....the bill is excellent....they need to do it. ASAP

Comment by shebar4

Thu, 07 May 2009 11:01:33 PDT

The circuit breaker bill does EXACTLY that.....tax reform groups have been working for years to get a bill passed that limits the amount of ALL PROPERTY TAXES you can pay based on your income...and your neighbor DOES NOT PICK UP THE SLACK! the state makes up the difference which it should do because too much of the property tax is really state obligations for vital services like education and medicaid....the bill is already76 in the Senate...they don't have to look around and waste more time...If the vote yes on S4239 you'll get relief on your very next tax bills....

Comment by shebar4

Thu, 07 May 2009 10:50:06 PDT

I think the wording of the question is misleading..the Om nibus circuit breaker as exemplified by Senator Krueger's bill S4239 gives relief the FIRST year to people making 100,000 and under...but it phases in relief to families making up to 250000.....reduce the percent of everytone's income (250,000 and below) is the correct question to ask...this is an actual bill...and the bu7rden doesn't fall on any other property tax payer....the state picks up the costs of vital services as i8t should.....

nobody is suggesting a circuit breakere that stops at 100,000...it's a bad i8dea and a bad question....

Comment by rob

Thu, 07 May 2009 09:52:56 PDT

The issue with this approach is small towns or areas where the real estate market is slow will start to lose tax revenues over time, all the while inflation increases.

Comment by mckeonandny

Thu, 07 May 2009 09:07:33 PDT

The only way to protect homeowners is to provide a safeguard such that the burden of property taxes is limited to a small percentage of their income. Left unchecked, seniors, young families, and those who are temporarily unemployed will continue to be forced from their homes.

Comment by millerd1018

Thu, 07 May 2009 08:49:36 PDT

This is the proposal that the Attorney General put forward to give voters and localities more tools to decide the forms of their own local governments.

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Wed, 06 May 2009 17:12:03 PDT

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